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Which begs the question: Settling for a deadbeat loser is like settling for a job you hate. There are way too many people who hate their jobs and keep on doing them, just like there are way too many women who settle for men who treat them poorly. What is it about non-ideal situations which makes us keep carrying on, doing nothing to change? He probably is reasonably attractive and tells a good story about his current situation and his ambitions. Obviously, he will be on his best behavior during the wooing process.
It might take one week, or it might take many months, but until a consummation is made, guys can be very charming! By the time a woman hooks up with the guy, only afterward will she see his true colors. As we are generally all optimists, a woman believes she can salvage the relationship and change him for the better. In retrospect, every woman who has gone out with a deadbeat loser realizes the case.
This is utterly disappointing and ludicrous. You deserve to have someone love you back as much as you love them. Those who ask for promotions get promotions.
Every day, we have the opportunity to meet a hundred people if we want to. It just takes initiative. If we never try meeting other people, we will never get rejected. Guys get rejected left and right because for some reason, society has told us we always have to initiate.
Instead, we settle for what we have or just being a lone. I never thought about this until readers kept on mentioning that deadbeat women tend to go out with deadbeat men. Society always sees men as losers, and women as misguided. I guess there is equality for all, after all! Not wanting to be with the hottest and nicest woman possible is hard for men to understand. We men think that it is better to have love and lost than to have never loved at all.
Guys also love it when their woman gets all the attention from other guys. Of course, we all know women cheat on men as much as men cheat on women. Compare the scope now vs. Settling is such a weak thing to do. It screams of insecurity. You have the right to be happy because someone out there will truly value who you really are!
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I think much of it starts in the home and how dad treated mom if dad was around much. I have seen this over and over. Young women will go out and be with a loser bad boy who really cant seem to get it together and shun the smart nice guy who now is in his thirties and forties and sucessful.
Now he doesnt want anything to do with that once young girl who now is middle aged tainted and fat whore with 3 kids from two different losers. Turn around is fair play. The way they act at 25 is the way they are at In fact I think they get worse and turn into their mothers. In fact, I think they get worse and turn into their fathers. I work part time myself and I enjoy life as much as I can. And it can be intimidating to see other guys making more money than I and going for a carreer.
But when I hear them talk about women I feel reassured. Ofcourse this is a generalisation, there are always exeptions. After I finished my schooling in my later 20s, hit the gym, gained weight, have a great gym body plus a 6 figure salary, I school pathetic losers in their 20s with part time jobs.
I bang one 21 year old after another, pump them and dump them and move onto the next. Nothing brings out confidence in a guy than having a great body, looking good and a 6 figure bankroll.
Because I have money like that. You sound so very insecure, and narrow minded1 Whom messed up your self-esteem in High School? You need a reality check, cause life is not all about looks, money and sex! Trust me, you will someday regret it in your 40s, why you had to use women, and dumped them after! Real men do not have your kind of mindset! Good luck on traveling the world and connecting your soul with different spirits!
Some of you insecure guys of this generation think sex is a casual satisfaction! The big fact you, guys like you and the dumb girls who fall for it is: I think the phenomenon is more prevalent amongst younger women. In my limited experience women who have some life experiences age is a number, but maturity is a relevant measure tend to make smarter decisions about who they enter into full relationships with.
Younger again, youth being measured in many different ways women are not sure what they want and are often attracted to men who are irrationally confident re: The Western marketing machine is basically built to make women feel self conscious about everything and especially their bodies; therefore, when young women have not developed a solid sense of self confidence they are very vulnerable to a guy who knows the right phrases to take advantage of the situation.
Young men are targeted much less and get more space to go through the growing up process and build self confidence naturally. Personally, I spent a ton of time trying to look way more like a cool rebel than I ever should have. The sad thing is that it worked. My University Money You make some really good points. And I have to agree that life experiences and age play a major role in how women, and men, choose who to date.
So true Eddie, although it may not necessarily bring relief, you need to fish from the right pond, and then STILL take time and see if what you caught is what you want…. Personally speaking, I hate insecurities in a woman. Hmmm, control issues for women huh? I guess I like that for a little bit. But, after a while, it gets old! She loves me for who I am, I raised our kids cook get food and give her my undivided attention.
When she is off and we still manage to have sex 6 days of every week. And surprizing she keeps me around. I think that mike is on to something — most women are not sure of what they want, and if they are, they are afraid to go after it.
I also think that some women want to be with the jerks because they feel like they will be able to change them and have the happy ending — a fairy tale fantasy, in my mind. It could be interesting to see if the power dynamic shifts in the future with women beginning to out educate, and potentially out earn men. If they spend their 20s and early 30s with a deadbeat, then it really hurts her chances to find another one, since women prefer older men, and older men therefore have to choice but to go out with younger women.
Men get older, they have a wider choice. Women get older, and there are less older men. When in reality, a lot of guys working on their careers in their mids will just bang these women for the easy access but will not engage with them in a long term relationship something I advise men to avoid as there is nothing in it for you.
If a guy wants a long term relationship, he wants kids. Women have it easier when they are younger, men have to be patient. With social media, reality TV, etc, I met a lot of immature women in their 30s still living in a teenaged fairy-tale land.
They think young, hot women want to sleep with them. Fact is older men are every bit as likely as older women to pass on gene mutations and birth defects to their children. Nevertheless, most women would prefer to be in a relationship with someone close to their own age, not much younger or much older. I advise young women to avoid relationships with older men, as there is nothing in it for them unless the man is filthy rich. Otherwise, the woman gets saddled with a wrinkled, balding, potbellied dude with aging sperm and has to play nursemaid to him as his health deteriorates.
Fact is all people age like spoiled milk; no one gets better with age. No matter what we do, our bodies continue to break down, and older men are even more likely than older women to be responsible for gene mutations and birth defects in their children since male sperm cells mutate much more quickly than female egg cells. Why would a woman in her 20s date a used-up man in his 30s? I advise young women to avoid long-term relationships with older men, as there is nothing in it for them except a wrinkled, balding, potbellied dude who they will have to play nurse to as his health declines.
Here are a few reasons: If you are woman in their 20s interested in short flings, going after the early 20s man makes sense.
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And it still feels awkward to me when an EE woman takes care of me. It is such a foreign feeling to me to be loved and taken care of……how sad is that!! When she cooks me something I still feel the need to jump up and help rather than let her take care of her man. I feel this way not because she genuinely needs or wants my help but because I feel selfish letting someone take care of me. But when I relax and let it happen it feels so good.
And I feel more loved and desired and cared for because of it. And there is not a damn thing wrong with that because I dont expect her to run to my job and help me. We men must really rewire ourselves from this western thinking. But then they have to get a shoehorn to squeeze their fat ass into that house and car.
The children are insane little brats and have no respect for anything and expect everything. They have no manners, common sense or work ethic. Ask any business owner about trying to hire new people. It is impossible to find someone with a work ethic anymore. Anyway, I lost track of where I was going with this. So, I hope you get over there and give it a try.
Thank you for the kind sentiments. I read your thoughts and observations. Uncanny how much alike we are in our views. I am a very masculine guy. I love golf, riding motorcycles, snow skiing and hanging out with my buddies on occasion. But I also like spending time with an intelligent, kind, gentle, warm, funny and lovely woman. Someone with class, grace, charm and humor. Someone who is quietly strong, challenges me to be my best, and a girl I can respect — not because she is a ball-buster — but because she just goes about getting things done in a subtle but deliberative manner.
Yes, someone like my mother. There was not anyone who ever met her who did not think she was the most remarkable woman they had ever known. However, this was not woman who was outspoken or overbearing. When she decided to speak, it was so eloquent and reasoned that even if you did not agree with her, you certainly respected her.
She garnered respect without even so much as hinting that she wanted or deserved it. She was so feminine, yet never above getting her hands dirty — literally. This was a lady who could fix a screen door at 4 P. Saturday afternoon, and be at the opera in a gown at 8 P. I will find someone similar to her in EE. I just have to be patient. Thank you again John. Thanks to all you guys. I too do not always agree with everyone here. Each of us has our own experiences and perspectives.
The one common thing we share is the notion that somewhere on the other side of this beautiful planet there is a girl that awaits us. Many would say we are fools. Better to die a fool and alone than to settle for anyone less than a nice lady to grow old with.
Maybe eaten alive was not a good way for me to describe what will happen to a WM in the east. But he will be seen as weak and discarded as such. When the problem is him and not the women. So were the American guys at the nightclub successful with the Ukrainian girls? You are right about being the man and all that.
Basically the foreign girls throw themselves at Western guys. Just get off the plane and as soon as they learn that you are a Western guy the girls come running. Of course they same the same thing about girls in Latin America, Southeast Asia and other part of the world that is completely overrun by feminism and materialism.
Then again a lot of foreign tend to want to marry Western guys because of who we are. Do not tell me that there is no truth to this concept. It is widely promoted after all. Well, as always happens in life, some of those American males did succeed and some did not.
In the big cities, most women are very nervous is most western men. There is this little issue with men coming there for a little on the side and leaving. A true lady, will stay back and wait for you to prove yourself to her. A lady just looking for a Visa, will do what she needs to get that Visa. Be careful, use common sense and everything will be OK.
William, I have heard these stories just like anyone else. But I have more than a little experience now. I would tell you if you get off the plane and see a line of women waiting to jump you…. First off it will never happen and second they would not be the ones you want anyway. But I personally would not suggest this as the best place to meet any woman anywhere in the world.
Good EE women do not want to leave their homes and family. They do it from a desire to have a family and children and a decent life. I have many Slavic friends. And I have been through both Ukraine and Russia. And as bad as drugs are in the west…alcohol is in the east.
It is part of the social structure of the culture. And many, many good guys there become addicted and become abusive to their women. This is the major complaint I have heard from EE women.
They want a guy there but dont want this drama. And now amphetamines are very rampant there. Especially in Ukraine so be careful. Yes, western men are seen by many as being good husband prospects but very few women are actually looking for them because they dont want to leave their home. But get one to fall in love with you and it will change.
But keep in mind…. What are the common signs to know if a woman is just trying to get a VISA? Is it demanding expensive dinners and gifts or is it usually something more subtle? I heard that you can tell the good girls from the ones who just want to take your money by not throwing huge amounts of money around. Things might have changed since then. What was it like 7 years ago? You know what, William… How about you come here yourself and talk to the ladies instead of asking meaningless questions?
I do NOT want to visit any night clubs, never wanted to and never will want! Definitely not my kind of a place to visit and have fun.
And I do not care how they look like now compared to 7 years ago. Was on busy in Romania. Took some time and travel to Kyiv. Being a western man bring a great deal of attention to yourself. Met the first lady at McDonalds, while I was standing in line getting coffee. All in different situations and place, but no night clubs.
Night clubs are not me as well. I did go one time to see what it was all about, left after my drink was finished. Did not care for it at all. I can tell you from my experiences, that no true woman will even speak with you about money or ask you to spend money on her.
These are every strong and proud woman. I remember the first time I bought her something. You would have thought I killed someone, just by the look on her face. She was not very pleased with me at all. They are strong and proud women. Pack your things and just go. You will not completely understand, until you just go there yourself. We can talk to you all day, but honestly do like I did.
Just go to visit the country. After finding someone, coming back to the US or wherever you live, will be difficult. After my trip in September, I landed stepped off the plane and wanted to turn around and leave to head back.
After being there for the month of November, it was much harder to come back. My wife-to-be was also not pleased with expensive trinkets, however me giving flowers once in awhile got a bare pass. Larry, I love that last comment about trying to part money from your wife. This is sooo true. My fiance has told me many times that she does not want anything from me. And part of that stems from the idea that she never wants a thought in my head that she could be anything other than genuine.
I am not sure what the hell William wants but it sounds more like he wants a international club tour than a relationship.
It is later, but I am finally getting back into some what of a rhythm. Catch up on some reading and writing.
John, Ira ask me the other day about sending me some money. When I asked her for what and why, she told me she wanted jelly beans for her son. A friend of his was in the US, on a soccer meet some international thing and his friend brought back jelly beans.
The kids loved them and she wanted to surprise him. He is away in Lviv at military school and coming home for a fall break. I had no words other than no, I will send these.
She told me we are not husband and wife or engaged, so it is not right for me to do this. She would not let me do a thing, no even help clean up afterwards. After 20 years of marriage and doing everything, laundry, fold the clothes, clean the house, take care of the outside… this list goes on and on. I have no idea how to react to anything Ira does. The Ex and the west took it out of me. I waited until my daughter was 18 and threw in the towel. I could not live like that anymore. I was starting to believe the old joke about men dying early.
They do not just die, they kill themselves to get away from the bitch. Another one is a man turns over his balls to the wife, when they get married. In the west, men are trained to feel guilty, pay an arm and a leg to get away from the Ex.
The past 40 years in the west, have just destroyed the male. I take care of my daughter, which is important to me. She does not understand what or why the marriage ended and I cannot explain. She has turned into the typical western woman. She was trained well by her mother, grandmother and aunt. My daughters aunt told her that her first marriage is for money, then her second is for love.
WTF BS is that crap. My daughter laughed, but it is too late. It is in her head already. Also is there any good websites that you know of or could profile when you have time for guys into Asian or Latin women? Is there a Latin Cupid or Asian Cupid? I can answer all your questions with ONE sentence: FC and all other here, that have either moved there or are in the process.
Meat markets and gold diggers. Come, rent an apartment and get out. Good when you can cook really well. Not really extra ordinary. And I for sure will not cook for families of my girl friend. As for the money for the jelly beans.
I understand why she wants to pay for it and in a way she is right. This is a very important and sometimes delicate matter. On the other hand , you still would want , to let her have her pride and dignity. And , for sure , they toast to many things. And bringing some small gifts is also a good idea. The opinion from her older sister and parents , is also a very hot topic for her.
I sure feel your urge , to go back as soon as possible. I think that Ukraine is a beautiful country , and in some ways , the climat is better than in my country. It is very positive that she let you meet most of her friends and relatives. Plus I think in our current environment and social climate most men are better cooks than women. Hope the best to William…on his travels to Russia or Colombia…if he decides to go. Just take the advice on this site seriously. I know first hand that young women in South America want men, not boys.
Nightclubs and bars are a touchy subject. Everyone likes to have their type of fun…some more than others. The only thing about bars and clubs…a lot of people there, men and women are acting to a certain degree…either putting on their best appearances, slumming, playing someone else, etc.
Thanks for all the info. I dated these foreign women when I was between the ages of and was not ready to settle down. It was a different era in the US at the time, so it may be different today. I also had to drop my anger about being duped by our PC society.
Scott is correct when he says all of us men in the US are feminists to some degree. I just stand there in silence. I remember traveling to foreign lands many years ago. Women were women and men were men. I look forward to experiencing that again.
Being politically correct will not make you happy — unless getting the approval of society is what you need to be happy. Such a tradition is probably becoming very rare in America and the west since most couples are divorced or separated, which obviously breaks up the family and rips children away from one their parents.
Serra just might be offering some very valuable advice. A quick review of my one on one English lesson with one of the young ladies from the English Club. Natalia is a refined, feminine, incredibly attractive Ukrainian lady with bright, green eyes.
She is 26 years old and at age 16 went on her first abroad trip to France. She absolutely loved her experience with her crew, her job and America in general. She had an American boyfriend who was older than her and owned his own home and two cars. When she returned to Ukraine, she met a Ukrainian man her age, all of 21, and she ended her American romance.
Now, 5 years later, they live together and will be married soon. I told her how US girls at the age of 21 years, change guys like we change clothes. Besides other subjects, I also shared with her my own experiences and how I found my wife and our happiness that we share.
She appeared puzzled because this was not her or any of her friends. She agreed that there would be some ladies that would go to this man, but for the most part, many would not. Her current fiance has barely anything but they look forward to building their wealth together. Western feminists are a bunch of clowns for insinuating that western men come to the EE searching for the easy EE lady. As Natalia told me, she believes in love. And yes, that girl is an exception which just confirms the general rule!
She was lucky to escape Ukraine at the age of 16 and see France, then she was lucky again when she got a chance to live and work in South Carolina for 4 months! We returned back to Germany from Ukraine a couple of weeks ago.
I am happy to report that Natalia passed her pre-interview for Flight Attendant with Emirates. She will now be going to Kiev for her 2 day assessment interview.
I spent 4 solid mornings with her and her fiance, helping develop and formulate their interview strategies. She texted me to say how happy she was and how she appreciated my help. During our final day, as we talked casually, after our lesson, I discovered that she had been a model, a dancer, and a Director of Mary Kay with 80 beauty consultants.
All at the tender age of Looking at her FB, I saw the other ladies, and yes, she was certainly the youngest. An extremely motivated, talented, young lady, with the same in her fiance.
More English is being spoken. More ways are being sought for financial gain. Natalia told me that her 19 year old brother was making more money than anyone in the family by playing online poker.
Her fiance, I came to find out, was successful working with a Forex account. They are wonderful people with giant hearts. Our friends and family had come to the train station to bid us goodbye on our trip to Kiev. It was heartwarming to see such care for us. Pretty exciting knowing that a family is growing with the love and care of two parents. My wife, the former lawyer, has no issues whatsoever, staying home and taking care of our daughter, day in and day out.
Never a complaint, never a whisper of discontent. Everyday I go to work with a packed lunch and come home to my sweet girls and a hot dinner. I can see how my daughter is growing up. She waves and blows kisses to her loved ones, or waves at cars when we are strolling in her baby carriage. Robert, I am 58 and my wife is To her, we are a family, never to be broken, and always to be one whole.
Due to the harsh lifestyle of Ukrainian men, at our age, they do look old! So, raise your glasses and join me in a toast of congratulations for my wife and soon to be born, son. Another happy and healthy child on the way. Your stories always show a stark contrast between eastern and western women. First, BIG congratulations on the soon to be member of the family. My girl was 5 years older than my son. You are going to have a blast! Enjoy this time, because they grow up so fast!
If you need anything, let me know. In speak with a close friend, who is looking for lady in his life, I tell him to come with me and stay for a month. He is a few years younger than me I am 50 and I keep telling him he will never find a good woman in the west. There are women there looking to escape and come west.
I think there is a fantasy is their heads about how wonderful it is. I do not given up the Marine in me and I did meet another lady, I am seeing. She does not want to move here thank God. She has a wonderful family and friends. I sit back and laugh, because after a few weeks of seeing me, it was the sister and her husband out of a picnic. Then it was more friends and finally the father and mother. I know she was looking for their approval of me: You did good sir.
I salute you on success. Just wish more men we go and see for themselves. After coming back to the western, they too would long to return to their Slavic lady. Bryan — I follow your blogs constantly.
Yes , when you finally have met both of her parents , then you may say , that you are on the right track. And she may not have to worry about what her family will think of her relation with a foreigner. Of course , her father will have the final saying in this. Now it is up to you , to take it to the next level.
Anyway good luck and work towards a happy end.. The brother in-law supplied the home made vodka and brandy. Holy crap, they toast to everything LOL!
The next weeks were spent with her, having lunch alone with the brother in-law. A walk by the Dnipro with her sister and children. Nights walking the dog after her work. The final meeting was with her 15 year old son. Then it was a train ride to Kyiv to meet more of her friends. There are good older women in Ukraine and maybe a few young ones. But I made a point to stay within 13 years younger age difference. I do find it different, that at woman 40 would want to have a child.
Maybe this is just the western male coming out. I am trying to hard to kick this to the curb. But I have no problems having a child with her at all. The slavic women just amaze me at how hard they work. People in the west bitch about working more than 8 hours a day and there she works 10 hours a day. Then comes home, cooks, cleans and gets ready for the next day. And walk the dog. The other thing is there are so many women single in Ukraine.
Blows my mind that a man there would leave his beautiful wife for a younger wife. There are beautiful women all around, but wow! Wow , another chapter in your lifes. I understand that you are in different emotional states. For sure things will change , but it will be more fullfilling.
Especially since it is a boy. At 61 years of age I would love to have a EE woman bear my child. The best to you and your family. For now I had to slow things down a bit. Yes , my girlfriend wanted to come see me in April but due to other issues , I had to cancel that. So , it is still in the work. But she has already mentioned that on my next trip to Odessa , we must have a BBQ together.
Here is an interesting article written by a foreign man in living America. Do not let 2 or 3 successful marriages to fool and mislead you! An eastern European female is times and times worse than her western counterpart! Still wanna go to Eastern Europe? They are unable to appreciate, value and respect any good things done for them and will only want more and more and more money from you no matter if you have money or not!
Please, do not make this biggest mistake of your life and start a relationship with an eastern European female! They suck times more than Western Women! FC, I think it really depends on the woman. Biggest problem I see is western the TV shows and movies.
These are giving a false views of life in the west. Yes and no, Bryan; How come I never got affected by the mainstream media, busloads of propaganda, brainwashing, political correctness, affirmative action, consumerism? Any updates to your Ukrainian experiences? Last I remember you were considering making a move there? Avoid Ukrainian females even more than western ones!! After my last long stay in Ukraine, I came back here to the US to handle a few remaining items with property.
As you all can tell, I remained in the US for now. Had a shocker her wanting to get pregnant at 40, then is was the money thing. I started feeling like just a cash cow only and every time I turned around she was wanting here or This was becoming so frequent, that I started questioning her about what the money was for. She got defensive on me and then excuses started. Do not get me wrong. I believe and know there are good women in Ukraine and Russia. But, honestly the numbers are becoming slimmer and slimmer for the chances to find a good women in Ukraine.
The situation there is going to get much worse, before it starts to even try to improve. Not even going to talk about the free EU travel about to start. Ukraine needs to stay Goodbye to many people. And God forbid someone trying to get into a relationship with a Ukrainian female! She will use whatever tricks to empty your pockets without ever giving anything back! All the reasons to ask for money will look legitimate on the surface and trust me, those reasons will be plenty!
Cash cow and a lucky lottery ticket to get to the West. Every Ukrainian woman has a behavioral pattern when she encounters a western man: Ukrainian women are better actresses than Hollywood stars! What a turn around of things in mere years in Eastern Europe… Never thoughts this was even possible.. To sum it all up: Better yet- buy a hooker and do not worry about not getting the bang for your hard earned buck! Fuck money, but I can NOT bring my time back!
My fucking wasted time! I know that things have slowed down here in our forum. Look at it this way: We stood our ground against the feminists that tried to shut our minds, values and dreams. They finally threw in the towel. So, just for fun now, I thought I would add a very funny video with Scott Baio. Cheers to the unofficial start of summer men. Hopefully all the Americans on this forum had a safe Memorial Day weekend. All well over here. Our daughter started German kindergarten this past week.
She now has German being thrown at her with English, Russian and Ukranian at home. Another distinct advantage living here vs the USA.
In the US, everyone pretty much sticks with the native language without the opportunity to practice in other languages perhaps Spanish. Sorry to hear about the issues that you both encountered. Thanks for letting us know. Don Juan de Marco was quoted as saying paraphrased: Now that Ukraine can travel thru the EU, this will change the landscape drastically.
I do count myself as one of the lucky ones, for sure. He has an excellent relationship with his wife and family. Plus, if you all remember, my former clients 4 of them are still happily married after 3 years.
One couple had a baby a couple of weeks before our son arrived. I believe that there are hopes in the smaller towns not Odessa, Kiev, Kharkov, for example. But, I know realistically, guys cannot, especially the young ones. Thanks for the update on how things have changed over there. For clarification, I want to make sure I understand what you are saying about searching for a lady over there which is exactly my newer strategy. I have determined that travelling off the beaten path increases the likelihood that a lady is more sincere, serious in her search, and probably much more grounded.
The question goes back to what are her internal values and upbringing. Marry a drop-dead gorgeous, big city girl with high expectations and you are asking for trouble. Opt for a relatively attractive, more down-to-earth, small-town lady, and you get what you bargained for — someone who will appreciate a man who is family-oriented, that treats her with kindness, respect, love, affection, and understanding.
Am I on the right track here? Do you think that the conditions there have increased the number of girls who are serious about finding a Western man and moving overseas? Appreciate any insight you can give.
Conditions have increased the number of girls who are now smart enough to play coy for a while and to take any westerner for a ride to empty his pockets. Moreover, a small town lady will have a small town mentality and life interests and rather sooner than later you will start feeling that you two are living on two different planets. My honest advice is: May be try Russian Siberia and Far East instead.
But stay away from Ukraine and its women! Thanks for the advice. Cut them off pronto! Had enough experience with American women in that realm.
Hey Lance, Nice to hear from you and I stand solidly behind you for your All-American shot in finding a genuine lady from Ukraine. So, to answer your great question, I am going to write all of the young between 24 and 35 years old that I know in a smaller town. I am going to poll them reflecting your question. Now, be assured these ladies are genuine people, married or engaged to very good Ukrainian men. In fact, one young couple newlyweds who we are best friends with, will be the Godparents of our son this summer.
Thanks to the freedom of travel with the no EU visa, they can now come visit us for the ceremony. When I round up all of the opinions and thoughts, I will compile and disseminate here on the site. Its a great question and it needs to be answered by ladies on the ground and not by any of us foreign men. Is it only me who seems to be getting all those eastern European gold diggers all along? Something is wrong with this equation.
What a brilliant ideal. You are exactly right. I chalk it up to learning that is all. Still want to move over to Europe, either Germany, Poland or Slovakia. Just love it too much over there not too move. Life it far to short for garage. Funny, because there she was always messaging me, even after we stopped working together. She is not looking for a move anywhere LOL! Her mother and father live over in Russia, but she went to school in Dnipro and stayed after school.
Not saying it will work. Just planning on giving it the all-American try. What is so special about Ukraine? Uneducated females who are after money and who love to play head games to get to that money? God forbid I ever again deal with a Ukrainian woman! She will leave you bankrupt and it will still be your fault in her eyes! Eastern European females can wear a disguise for years and years until they think the moment has come to take it off and show true colors!
I think any guy who wants to keep the Russ or Slavic bloodline in his family tree needs to go there. You have been warned! If you are not redpilled, do not attempt! Do not be blinded by the light. Always be ready to walk away if it does not feel right. This website has presented both the best and worst outcomes. But that happens with anyone. FC seems to think that all Ukrainian woman are blood-sucking, money-grubbing vampires.
Whereas the whole point of this site was to point out that Western Women were the same way. Which means that all women are like that, it is a universal condition, and you are screwed if you marry one. So just stay single. As well as unsuccessful ones. For a variety of reasons. I have seen women here in the U. Absolutely, an overwhelming majority of Ukrainian women ARE indeed gold diggers who are after the money each and every time they date someone!
They ARE money grabbers! Russian or Ukrainian women? They never have money and they do not WANT to do anything to at least help to make that money!
A one way street will sooner or later lead to a dead end! You put in 9 years. I was married for 29 years before mine divorced me! But you know what, it was one of the best things that ever happened to me. Now I can flirt with and chase any woman that strikes my fancy.
I turned down a lot of pussy when I was married, but no more! Only wish I was 20 years younger. Try to look on the bright side. Get out and chase the senoritas. Glad you understood what I was trying to say. I was married to a Texas girl for 29 years and have two great kids who are now grown.
She divorced me, so now I can play the field again. But this time there will be NO relationship. Girlfriends maybe, but no long-term. Already having grown children and being single brings a feeling of freedom that I can not describe. It is absolutely the epitomy of ZFG attitude!
I just want to add this for all the young guys out there. If you are looking for a conservative, feminine Caucasian woman who is not infected with Western sjw values for marriage, then I still believe Eastern Europe or Russia is your best bet.
FC and Rodney have had totally different experiences, so it is not a foolproof choice. But the choices have to be better than the West. Go back and read the blog from the beginning. Things change, times change, but the trends continue. Time for another beer. I wanted to chime in with a few thoughts nonetheless. I was raised in a typical southern family, no good family values, mom was divorced, stepdad had strings of affairs and an addiction, etc.
I was not impressed with this way of life, so I started looking at other options. I became a lawyer and learned to cook very well!
I traveled all over the world and came to just about the same conclusion as you all — the issue is America. I know that American women are not the best, but truly American men, from what I saw, are not either.
Both sexes are raised in a society that forces us to be independent to the detriment of others. I ended up with a foreign man and moved overseas. I am currently back in the states visiting and the trip solidifies how much I dislike the American way of life. Overseas I am treated as a lady. In turn, I cook. In the states, this would be impossible. I love gender roles and I am happy to just be a woman and be submissive to my husband. I got a lot of negative comments from others when I chose to move.
Lots of people called me crazy, many said I was desperate, and rumors began flying about me some were convinced I was evading law enforcement, etc. I am so unbelievably happy and I would never consider leaving my husband even if he did something against me. I am not justifying the general behavior of women, but they are looking for something to make them feel whole, just as men are.
The issue is that they have probably never seen a family with decent values or a society that thrives because of the strong bonds of family, so making that happen is very difficult. Once I was exposed to the traditional way of life, I knew that I had to get out of America as soon as possible.
A lot of American ladies look at my way of living and say that I am dependent, my situation is sad, I let my husband control me, etc. Society here in the west is dictating lives now. When a person is to get married. When, they are to have children. What type of car a person has or what part of town they live in. Hell, even the types of friends. I look at my 19 year old daughter and how she looks at relationships of a man and woman. Her aunt made a comment to my daughter, when she was about 12 or She told her her first marriage was about money.
Marry a man, have a child, divorce, then marry for love. WTH kind of BS is that. The aunt said she was just joking, but that thought was already placed in my daughter mind. He traveled most of his career and would be gone for weeks at a time. But, now that he is home all the time, they cannot stand to be together. I watch couples live in misery, because everyone is afraid to start over in life. Husband drink, take up hobbies to escape being around the other person or take a job, where he is traveling all the time to get away from the wife.
In the US, the divorce rate of couples married over 18 years has risen. Husband hang round, until the children are grown before leaving. People find out, that there really is nothing in common and they start living separate lives. This is not marriage. This is just 2 people leaving together for the sake of being afraid to start over. Take the average US woman. She has gotten fat and lazy. Stopped taking care of herself and excepts her husband to still have sex with her.
Now, this could be said about the men as well. But, when both are miserable life becomes hell for each and they slowly die inside, just excepting this as their fate in life.
You are an exception to the norm for a woman in the west. You escaped the new reality of western life, just like many men here are trying to do and most have done. I will end with this quote. The secret of success is in turning that diary into the best story you possibly can. I had my wife divorce rape me when I returned from Army deployments in I have dated both American women and Russian women over the last seven years.
I found an equal split between both AW and RW and how some of them want money. I find the RW to be way more feminine, and not over weight like AW. I will watch and follow the posts here, and I will report back with my results. Thanks for the wealth of knowledge that is contained here, and please keep posting what your experience has been. Keith, you will find most slavic woman take care of themselves far better, than western women. With the ratio of men to women in these countries, the women take care of themselves and their man.
If, he is a good man. There are far to many single women in these slavic countries and a good man is hard to come by, so they look amazing and take extremely good care of their man. Western women have it made. They throw out the hook pussy. Then either threaten to screw him with a divorce and taking half or all his stuff or just divorce him and trap the next sucker.
Men in the west have also been trained to accept, whatever they get and just deal with it or feel the pain. Life is far to short for bullshit. Live it or loose it…. Personally, I have seen the gold diggers on both sides of fence.
But, by far Slavic women are much better wives and lovers. This article was sent to me by a friend and after I read it, it had a profound impact on me. After 17 years of marriage and 4 children later my wife just ups and decides to go looking for a millionaire.
It all came down to mine. When I had money things were great then I had a financial collapse and it was over. My wife really married me for money not Love.
Look she got the house she wanted, the cars she wanted the diamond engagement ring and 10 year diamond anniversary band she wanted. Now everything went into the crapper but that is a temporary condition. Her sister in law and her mother encouraged her ideas. Her younger sister had previously done this to her husband.
She wanted to sit on her ass at home because I made enough to do that!!!! Fast forward 2 years later I found a Ukrainian-Russian dating site. I am half Ukrainian myself. I joined the site and within 18 months I had over 3, letters from women all over Ukraine and Russia.
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