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W hen a divorced woman on "the wrong side of 45 with a brace of kids" began to write about her experiences of being single last week, she opened her blog with the extraordinary statement that she was in "relationship no man's land", condemned to be alone for the rest of her life. The anonymous woman, whose blog is called The Plankton, is not alone in believing that there are problems specific to being a single woman in middle age.
A survey this month found eight out of 10 women over 50 think they have become invisible to men. Seven out of 10 women in the study felt overlooked by the fashion industry, while three-quarters of women in their 60s believed they had lost their identity by being labelled as a "mum".
Women and men are living longer and fitter lives; the average age at which we divorce is rising — 41 now for women and 43 for men — and the number of single parents is projected to rise to 1. There is a new demographic of confident and experienced women, at their sexual peak as far as science is concerned, who would like to find a partner.
But life, friendship and love for the single woman in her mids and beyond has its own particular complications and sorrows. Susan Quilliam, a relationships expert and agony aunt, said that some women were suffering "terribly". They are also much more in a rush to get into a new relationship and are much less likely to give someone a second chance, which may seem callous but they are much more likely to fall in love quickly. For men, it's a case of you fulfil the criteria, let's buy the double duvet.
It's a shame men aim for the younger age range because women of 45 and 55 are arguably much more sexually mature and able to give a lot more pleasure than, say, a woman of The author of the Plankton blog sums up the emotional aftermath of her divorce in bleak fashion: I am already in a wilderness — maybe [facing] my time again, over 40 years, it's possible, but with no one.
She points to a passage in the book Intimacy by Hanif Kureshi, when his narrator briefly considers the fate of the woman he is leaving: She will, unfortunately, become the recipient of sympathy.
At dinner parties divorced men will be placed next to her. But according to many singles, even getting invited to the dinner party can be tricky when people tend to socialise with other couples as they get older and settled into marriages and parenthood.
Katie Sheppard, the director of relationships at Match. Its research shows that dating is, especially for divorced women, fraught with complication, anxiety and worry. Looking for second-time love when children are a first priority is a challenge. Nicola Lamond, Netmums spokeswoman and mother, said: Single parents describe themselves as lonely, isolated, vulnerable and worthless.
There is a real sense their world has shrunk. Trying to meet people in bars and clubs can feel like a younger person's game, especially when you need a single friend and a babysitter to get there. Susan Broom is a bubbly woman with a ready laugh who is 48, single, and has now given up actively looking for a man, certainly online, and is not afraid to admit that she does feel the sadness of that.
I prefer men of my own age. But a lot of those men my age are only looking at women in their 20s or 30s. Because of its 'anything is possible', 'sweet-shop' appeal, online dating just encourages men to cherry-pick their ideal — usually younger — mate.
Which is depressing if you're a woman of a certain age. Studies across all cultures and nations have shown a consistent trend for men to have younger partners. An unhappy pattern for plus women who want a new partner.
It's an invisible band of women, they don't complain and they just get on with their lives, but actually it's tough for them. It's hard to meet people, especially in London. I'd like to try to set something up for the single people in my area, I know they are out there. A physical event where people actually meet instead of everybody finding online dating a bit of a letdown and just staying home feeling sorry for themselves. Women also report losing friends because of the differences between single and attached lives.
So it's tough because you also have to get out there and find a new bunch of female mates too, and, of course, they end up being younger than you, and then you worry about going out with them and they'll be getting chatted up and you won't! And in a real way — not just in a 'singledom rocks' way.
Because quite often it really doesn't. There are rewards, however, for remaining single, says Kate Grussing, the founder of the management consultancy firm Sapphire Partners, who believes single, childless women in their 40s and 50s have huge advantages at work. They have proved themselves, they are good at what they do and at the top of their game.
And they will have got where they are in their careers by juggling far fewer balls on the way up. When actress Lynda Bellingham, 62, met her third husband, Michael Pattemore, in she assumed "he wouldn't fancy me". Reaching my 50s was an unsettling time, and I felt that my romantic life was over. And that kind of assumption is something which holds a lot of women back, claims Julia Macmillan.
She is on a mission to help women to tackle their something love drought by doing what men do — going younger. Macmillan, 49, has set up toyboywarehouse. Younger men are nowadays desperate to meet older women, she claims, and she has more men than women looking for love on her site. Our battle is to change women's mindset and get women to believe that there are younger men who want what they are, experienced, strong-willed, confident.
Men in their mids slow down, women are dynamic and full of energy. We need to match that energy. We have a lot of happy matches. But nor does everyone feel that they will find love on the web. Topics Online dating The Observer.
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Actually, most people who are sending a message contact us, have a question like "how to hook up with an older lady or MILF. Older women up to , sometimes, even more, have sexual needs and in some cases better sex drive than in the 30s. It has some explanations for why their sexuality works that way but for now, it is not important for us. It is important to know where to find them and how to approach them when you find.
Divorced women who are seeking men can be very grateful for casual dating, but on the other side can be a bit dangerous since a certain number of divorced women looking for new marriage and sex is a way to get that.
You can find them on those sites , but be careful, keep in mind fact that they may want marriage from you, so the best way is to go slowly and see is women really interested only in casual sex partner or something more. In first case, it is best to not ask too many questions about her past or future.
It is highly recommended to explain to divorced women that you want sex, and you don't have a problem if she has sex with other people. Try to make some kind of deal, so-called " Friends With Benefits ". Here are some of comments and questions from my readers, if you want to say or ask something feel free to contact me.
Sex is wild, we are going out, I am even thinking about something more serious between us. To make long story short thanks for great piece of info! I am from Finland, and going to Greece every year, but in most previous years I was happy if I catch one girl for whole summer, this time it was crazy, got sex with more than ten women and girls, I got idea where they are and how to find them, once again THANKS T.
Thanks for suggestions and sites! I always had small problem with females, but now for past 2 months thanks to you, so once again BIG thanks! Where WE to find guys? Especially in your 40s or 50s? You can write something about that too, I know that you mean that is "simple" for us, but actually it NOT simple. I am following it, and in past 6 months, had sex 12 times with 8 different partners.
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My point of interest are older women and thanks to hookup sites and few other hookup apps I am having in past few years very interesting and good sex life. Few FWBs and time by the time something that is more date thanks one-night stand Any case, thanks for great work! I tried using sites you suggest, but at the end after no success with sites nor apps, it happens accidentally in a local bar. So I would say that if you want casual sex with older ladies you need to try everything possible, what means both Internet and real-life places to meet such ladies.
Before reading those few tips that according to a lot experience really can help you, here is what is interesting, from last year more than 20 message received from female population, and all messages claim same thing: No matter you are trying online or other way, always remember that you have nothing to loose!
So be direct, act like you know what you want, don't give them time to think. If you want to date her or hookup with her just be direct, worst thing can happen is to dump you, so? If you approach to 5 girls in one night at least 1 will be yours, again keep that in mind! If you decide to try with online dating and hookups, when you creating profile, put provocative photo, leave some details about you undisclosed, women like mystery guys. Ask them, listen them when you start conversation and don't talk too much about yourself.
When you go from site to texting, sometime response immediately sometime after few hours or even days. I don't know why this works with both girls and women, but it works. No matter that mostly of women today insist to pay own part of dinner or whatever, don't try to argue with her, simply pay everything and give waiter a nice tip in front of her.
Many girls will argue with you after such gesture, but act as you don't care and in first next situation do the same. Like previous thing, I don't know WHY but this works for whole my life, with both older and younger women.
I think they like to see men which pays everything, but today's culture promote women who pays own part, any case, just do it, and tell her "Ok, you will pay next time". Off course next time you will do the same thing. Be patient, women don't like guys who desperately need sex.
That is how they see the thing, a desperate man is a man who had no sex for long period. Women like guys who can have sex whatever they want, that is something in woman nature. They are attracted to guys who have a lot of choices. Being fat always adds years to your appearance, And I have to tell you that at least for a while until you lose those extra pounds the paleolithic diet is tha shiznit, besides nothing more alpha than eating just raw vegetables fruits and meat like a caveman.
This is probably why hardly any older guys do day game. Women aged 35 and over who are reasonably attractive and look after themselves, are much harder to come across in the day. In my country a person aged 18 and over is legally considered an adult. Their age alone generates attraction. All a young man has to do is optimize his physique and his clothing style, get out of his parents house, overcome approach anxiety, learn how to eliminate anti-game, approach approach approach, and be bold and physically aggressive.
Other than that, I have yet to see any examples of older guys pulling off daygame with younger women. I had to comment on this. Its hard to find single women over 35 during the day. It constantly amazes me how few young men actually do daygame. It is the easiest and cheapest form of game out there. I would argue their similar age generates comfort , not attraction. I would argue their similar age generates comfort, not attraction.
She showed me a picture of the guy. He was slightly above average in the face. Think of the way that you feel when you see that year old hottie. Your body feels a stronger sexual attraction then if you were to see a really hot 35 year old MILF. Your body has cravings. I think its the same with women. Alot there jibes with what I have seen regarding young women and young men.
What you and Krauser are doing is enormously impressive, each in your own way and your own niche. It just means that it is an order of magnitude harder. It may be pay based to be able to send messages out, but another avenue is the Cougar Life site. Put your age as younger, if you can get away with it.
Some trouble, yes, but not very much. I have strongly considered setting up a little side business that completely focuses on teaching over guys how to date; younger women or otherwise. Oh, if only I had the time! There needs to be a video product, or a video series, like what the Asian American guys behind Simple Pickup — Project Go do in their stuff. I still want to enjoy life. But I cannot see myself ever subjecting myself to the marriage-grinder that is the US.
I will more likely retire to some Asian country, and have a slew of kids with young women who do not seek marriage. And all I need is a DNA test to verify the kid is mine, and young willing women. As long as I get them in the US, I see no need to change my life. When I can not longer get them here, I will go where I can.
I have a 22 year old roommate who parties pretty hard. He brought over some 19 year old chick with a bunch of his friends. After sitting with them for a while she plunked her but down right beside me and we got talking. She went to the bathroom and i didnt want to p. I asked if anyone was trying to get with her and they said no. She came back and i just hit her with it. She asked if i knew how old she was and i flatly said i didnt care but she could tell me if she wanted.
She told me she was 19 and i said thats great whats your number. Half an hour later i asked her to kiss me and she did. My roommate and his buddies were floored at the speed and brutal efficiency with which this 37 year old guy closed in on this 19 year old.
Then my roommate says hes going out with her in a few days and hes going to try to get with her. I say ok ill back off for a bit let me know how it goes. He comes back and says that theyre just going to be friends so i say okay fair game.
Next week he again brings a bunch of friends and she shows up with them. Obviously my roommate is still trying to get with her, dragging her off alone. Whenever she hits the bathroom he asks me to come join them.
I do, and the roommate keeps bringing her someplace else, or if its his room he asks me politely to leave after a while and i have no issue but its getting annoying the girl obviously is wanting on me. She even wakes me up later that night and has a smoke with me, then jumps into my bed. Tells me and my room mate that she wants to share my bed with me.
Roommate again tries to get her away from me and gets her to go back into his room. Then she invites me to come along. Guy not getting the hint. Again after a bit he asks me for some privacy and i say no problem. Im chilling and girl comes back and says hes nearly asleep, when he falls asleep she will come and crawl into bed with me. We bang three times. Cant remember the type in your chart but she openly admits she likes older guys and asks me for a FB arrangement, which i of course oblige.
Says her problem is dudes she sleeps with fall in love with her and she has no interest in a relationship, the sex is just fun. Offers to dress up like a schoolgirl for me whole nine yards. The point of all this story is this. The roommates game was obviously way too mushy. I saw it before my very eyes. He was friendzoned probably the moment he tried. None of these younger dudes had the balls to make the straight up ask.
I was like that back then. They also didnt recognize that this girl was just a party girl who wanted to get crazy sometimes. They were caught up thinking that they needed to get her to love them in order to f. In reality she doesnt want to be in love with anyone.
Also, the speed and veracity with which i got her number and kissed her probably made the roommate this she was desperate or easy so he figured he would make a move afterwards. In reality once i land her number and kiss her theres no reason i should have to back off, he should have just moved onto another, but i knew what that girl was after and i figured she was just getting together with him and hanging out to get near me.
Then the world will say: Alan Wright I totally disagree with you. Younger women with older guys arent just out for their money. The 19 year old I banged as described above didnt cost me a penny, well maybe a cigarette after she ran out. That I dont act jealous needy or insecure b. She is a VYW Type 3. Never been with an older guy before, only guys within a year or two of her age. I actually picked her up at a bar day game at 3 in the afternoon on a Wednesday and she had a boyfriend who is now history.
Just hard to figure which type she is in herself. Would a type 1 do this? I am with a younger woman now for 11 years, married for 10, two little ones and two dogs. I broke the rule of keeping it casual. I was raised with the social and religious hangups that took me a lifetime to overcome. Surprised I dated as much as I did. I will say that this type dating is not generally typical of everyone and should not be misunderstood. Not everyone would be happy just as not everyone is happy being forced into other types of relationships.
Try as I might I could not date women my own age and I dont like to be alone either lol. I was in amazing shape, well groomed, reasonably well employed in military but not a big player. In hindsight, dating years longer allowing her freedom to grow would have been better.
The only bad thing I have to say after all this time is how difficult some people made our lives that did not approve. It was really all about them, others and they.
It is a deep regret but our being together was just too amazing. It is still hard after all this time. I have often thought of moving to anywhere else in the world because it isnt such a big deal. I find women of all ages attractive so it really has been an enigma how leading up to my marriage younger women were there and available and the others were absent.
Dating should never be a competition, ever because it makes people think we are insincere and toxic towards younger women. Also, if you have to part ways do your best to be graceful about it even if it has past that point. That will make a world of difference. My bf is 35 and likes to hang out with party girls who are I am 25 and very hurt about his ongoing friendships with young ladies.
I still think that younger women are attracted to older men because older men will typically represent a thicker wallet…. The bottom line is that you are probably very right in that about half the available women out there have no qualms about dating older men…even men who are only marginally older i.
You mentioned it when you were talking about Type 1 women being totally turned off by older men…. If your boyfriend is ignoring you, or spending more time with even younger women than you, then there is either a problem with your relationship, or he has issues. You can try testing the strength of the relationship and see what his reaction when you chat with other guys…. Look it up in the glossary right here. By that age they have matured a lot and I think they tend to be much more open to dating older men than those girls fresh out of high school.
Perhaps the VYW category should only include year olds? If a 20 year old guy and a 35 year old guy are both tall and ripped and have attractive facial features, girls would not be more attracted to the 20 year old just because of his age.
The mistake many people make is that they assume that younger guys are automatically gorgeous. This is not the case. Most guys under 30 are just average.
Most women are not attracted to average guys based on looks alone, even if they are tall and ripped. Actually, I would go as far as to say that a 40 year old guy who is not tall and does not have a ripped body but has an attractive looking face would get much more attention than a 25 year old who is tall and ripped but has an average looking face. I got back into the dating world when i was in my early 40s. I found the 40 year old women were usually just out of a divorce and bitter my experiences anyway.
Those in their 30s were looking for a stable relationship easiest to have a sexual relationship with , and those in their 20s like to have fun not just sex and never right away.
As I got older the age of my dates pretty much stayed the same. I believe I am fairly good looking but certainly not buff. I live OK but not rich. Being in Los Angeles I found plenty of beautiful women in every category. I found the most important thing was to treat them all with respect and as nice as possible. I make them think they are the only woman in the world and I only want to spend time with them.
I never mention guy friends or guy activities because at the moment she is the center of my attention. I eventually met a beautiful girl who was 19 and I was Beauty pageant winner, model, you know, the ultimate fantasy girl but in real life they do exist.
We have been together for 8 years now. It does get more difficult to maintain a relationship with that amount of age difference as you get older, but it can be done. If I can do it I am sure many of you other guys can too. I was chapter adviser for my old fraternity who was having a party.
I was 54 at the time and probably stood out as being the old guy and why is he here. There were a bunch of sorority girls at the other end of the room. It appeared that a couple of them were pledging. She took me by the hand to the rest room. Not to get graphic, it was incredible and not a word was said. She was 18 or I was probably just a sorority stunt, but who cares. Just a great memory. This article, although you seem to be too loose a dater for my personal preference, I can relate to.
Is it that hard to believe that there is no weird ulterior motive behind me going on a date with a man 17 years my junior? I pay for my share of the tab, I turn down opportunities for these men to buy me things, etc. I just genuinely have a hard time feeling attracted to men my age.
Just the way it is. What is a good ice breaker and segway into going on a date and potentially sleeping with them right away? Thanks for your time. Just follow my usual dating advice. Then a second date where she comes over to your place and you escalate to sex. How to ask a younger woman on a date? Be very non-creepy, non-threatening, and very outcome independent. If anything, we could just end up as friends.
Personally, I like to have sex first, then build the relationship. I dated the high school boys; they fall in love to quickly. Have pretty extensive experience in this and mostly agree. THE most important factor is to be honest with them.
If anything, the 18 is a keeper. She turns 19 next month. She has a personality, is slim with long black hair, does yoga, is smart, quick to laugh and slow to take offense, and not at all embarrassing. So could you briefly explain what is creepy, and how do I avoid it?
It seems quite subjective: Something an unattractive guy does might be creepy while if Brad Pitt did it, it would be attractive. How does this work? I do think, as stated above in this thread, where you may have to risk being perceived as a little creepy in order to get what you want. Quoted from one of my ebooks:. I am 51 and most of the younger women I meet say I look like I am in my 30s. She is, I believe 19 0r 21 but she has a really cute face and a very mature body!
I dated women older then my over my younger years and my ex wife was older then my too. So I would consider it a blessing if I could start dating this younger woman.
I am a little worried because it is something new too me but I would treat her like my queen and go as slow as she wants too. All I can do is just be a confident, respectful and very caring man for her.
Thanks for your great advice on attracting and dating very young women. It was something like a internal shutdown switch that tripped and could not be reset. Once one realizes that particularly U. American society has brainwashed us males into believing were doing something wrong, we can get past this bullshit and begin to date whoever, whenever we feel like it. We ourselves are our greatest hinderance or catalyst to dating the person we see fit.
Sorry to crash this party, I am from the other side. He is a former professor of mine no longer and will not be again so there would be no issues with my school. I have recieved mixed signals from him and I am very confused. He has my phone number and we have texted each other and ran into each other again recently. Is he over it or just taking it slow? Just send him a text. I simply ran across this site, throwing out something I already knew: That older men are attracted to younger women.
Thanks, Black Dragon for breakdown of types, and general rules, and clarification on creepy vs. Comment deleted for violation of Rule Number One. I was very wrong and found all the guys I date was way more immature than me. I am a 59 year old man. I act much younger as well, and kid around a lot. I realize this may be a strike against me.
I dress nicely and appropriately for men in their late 40s. This may be due, in part, to the fact that my wife also cut me off, sexually, at that time. I keep myself very fiit and healthy. Realistcally, what age would you say is the youngest beautiful woman I can expect to have a long-term relationship or even marriage with? Thanks so much, Blackdragon! I just happened to stumble onto this, and after reading the post and comments.
Most of it seems on how to get with someone who can practically be your daughter. I can only guess two reasons why she wants you, money and daddy issues. How about looking up what a girl thinks about older men? If you have a negative view of this, please go to this post here and and answer its question. I got divorced 6 years ago, and have been on a few dates with woman my age, and found most of them to be bitter and angry at the whole dating world.
Then an amazing thing happened, I met this beautiful 28 year old model, i only say that to express how beautiful she actually is. She hit on me, I am a good looking man but put myself in that catagory that I would never attract a younger woman again.
She happened to be in town for some work, but actually lives 6 hrs away from me. We met at a coffee house.
Our first conversation lasted 4 hrs. She was well read, intelligent, juswt fasinating. Next thing I know, she started texting me obv. After a couple of weeks of phone and texting, she invited me to come spend the weekend at her beach house up north.
I just assumed she enjoyed my older wisdom, as what could she see in me? I paid her a 4 day visit, we had a wonderfull time, and towards the end of my trip, she kissed me, and said she has never quite met anyone like me. I left , but we kept in touch every day, her youth brought new life into me. She made it clear she never related to guys her own age, and found my experience and knowledge facinating. I soon paid her another visit. I sooon found the age gap to be no gap at all, we related on so many things, she is a brilliant person, beautiful in so many ways, deep, passionate.
We shared the same religious beliefs, and were both more spiritual then religious. And it is quite true, I acted my age, I have salt and pepper hair, and she loves it. I thought my sex life was over. I do not tthink the cure to ED is drug treatment. Its finding a younger woman who stimulates you both emotionally and phisically.
You just got to be comfortable and confident. When not at work I dress like a 17yo skater. They are quite self centered and view themselves much more as individuals than part of something bigger.
A woman is always going to be attracted to what elevates her in her social world, regardless of size of her social life. Initial attraction for them is all about self promotion in their social ladder.
The key to driving women crazy regardless of age is stealing their thunder, sex. The fail proof plan is getting them hot for you again more mental gymnastics than physical then refusing sex when they obviously want it.
It puts them in their place, makes you look like a king and sets a precident that they cannot control you with seduction. You successfully out mind-fuck a woman and she will screw like a porn star and eat out of the palm of your hand.
The closest I come to is a type 1. I will tell you why, which is not stated in the type 1 description. At 18 I went on a date with a 26 year old.
No, at 18 I was still thinking about the life between now and kids. Lack of maturity has nothing to do with it, but rather youthful wisdom. Older men have been there, done that. I want a partner for life experiences, not another daddy, mentor, etc. I think older men who father children with vyw are considerably thoughtless and selfish lacking the ability to really think about the future. I want a man to be interested in the total package, not just my shell. What it comes down to is that I am very confident, attractive not just by youth , and intelligent at my vya very young age …and I have no desire to date an older man because that tells me something must be very wrong with his values, perceptions, and character.
Just the fact that you are trying to figure out how to have sex with us, noting how easy it is to take advantage of type 2s girls who are looking for a daddy is completely creepy. Then go here and answer the question the article there poses. Would he want this for her?
I think that some men will got into some sad, pathetic denial and decide in some twisted way that they would be okay with it. Heck, even pedophiles have their own groups helping each other justify their love of children and how their actions or desires are okay.
I turned 18 during my senior year of high school as did a lot of my friends. You want to date a high school senior? What is wrong with you? Unfortunately, I know girls who want to think of themselves so badly as mature that they would, therefore, think themselves to be justified to date an older old man. The thing is, these girls are the ones who I think lack the most in maturity. How do you define maturity?
Explain to me how an 18 to, what was the age before we are old according to you…23? At some point the law has to cut itself off and place hope in the hands of people. Write an article about how to land a 20 year old guy friend. Or would that be really creepy? Perhaps you should re-read the question and try again.
I did answer, just maybe not to your liking. It is grotesquely selfish of the man. If human men want to live in their reptile brains, I suppose you can. You have not given one solid, external, real-life, fact-based answer to that question. Asia, Europe, and South America are much more chill about this particular issue.
I prefer to live in the objective world. You asked why it is bad. I gave you my opinion. You are unable to present any fact based answers. Biology bit her in the hiney and she decided later she wanted children. Long story short, she ended up childless and divorced but at least he got to show off his trophy for a bit and have sex with it. And then there is a friend who decided at 20 to marry a man in his early 40s. He divorced his wife who happened to be one of my teachers in high school.
I ran into him at a club while I was working and even though I still refer to him as Dr. His poor kids…my friend would die if he knew his dad hit on me like that…what a total creep. Oh, and then there is another friend who met a married man going through a family crisis.
Her dad left her mom for a younger woman…so she decided to invade the family crisis and become the younger woman for him. The older men all got what they wanted and now?
You think that because you are an older generation that was probably taught that. My generation is much more open.
You just want to have sex with us. Thank you for proving my point that you have none, other than your own feelings. You are taking about casual sex, but all these marriages came partly as a result of casual sex. And if you are decent at all, then be up front with your conquests. BD and Susan you both make reasonable comments across the spectrum. I would note that my understanding is that for hundreds of years women were treated as unable to make decisions for themselves, unable to vote, or own property, etc.
Now that women are treated as capable of making decisions for themselves it is ironic that Susan would basically argue that we should return to those days and protect women from the intellectually superior men who would and can take advantage of them.
He treated you as an adult, capable of declining his offer, and you reacted above as an indignant child. Every web site where we men are trying to achieve something in trying to adapt to modern women, there is always some women who enter into what is a discussion, and try and take over with such strong gender bias opinions.
It is like they always have to be right by having the final definitive word. I was going to offer some information on this topic being that I married a lady 18 years younger however, women like SUSAN above has already exhausted me and frankly, this is all too common online and out in the real world.
No wonder MGTOW is looking better and better each and everyday for a growing number of battle fatigued scarred men. Average looking, slightly overweight, well groomed and act my age of Big Turnoff For Them I actually talk to them with respect unlike their boyfriends.
Tell them they are super hot but only ONCE! I will say it again ONCE! The 49 year old wisdom and honesty gets you invited to parties and into their bed all the time.
I never have participated in their offers happily married but it sure is fun to be around them and have them hug and love on you. It gets your creepy buddies super jealous! Good article and validated! I attribute this as simply the result of these young millennial guys that she has to pay for half of her expenses even if they live together with these young bozos…. Same thing with these types of relationships….. Ever read the bible and seen how the majority of those marriages were from much older men to younger women?
Blame it on the bible all you type 1s…. You gotta know how to use a touch screen phone or know what an iPad is, right? This is so sad and pathetic. Give me a break. Are you really that weak? The most you will get from that is an std. Any young women that would date or go out with a guy ten years older is only doing so to take whatever it is that you have. Stay with your own age unless you like getting scammed. Believe me, if you are with a woman ten years younger than you she is just waiting for the right time to strike.
When I met him, he was fifty-eight. He was living in the same residential home as me. We were mutually attracted to each other. It took me a while though. He was attracted to me straight away. I know different, now. LOL about the overweight, nonsexual wives. I am currently at University, one of the top 3 in the country UK Me and my house mate hosted a party last night and I has a choice of 3 girls, ages 23 down to Guess which one I ended up in bed with?!
Like you say I just act normal, no games and boom she took ME to bed. Any advice would be gratefully received. I just turned 60 and am breaking up with my 52 year old live in girlfriend after being with her for 10 years. It is over mostly my girl friend of 2 years who I hang out with a lot. Any comments would be appreciated. Very good advice, especially about being creepy and acting your age.
I currently have a mistress that is a little over thirty years younger than I am. We enjoy each other thoroughly, as friends, companions, and sex partners. I always just try to act like me, be a gentleman and that way there is no change when we get together.
She is much more an active sex partner but does not expect me to always keep up. You guys are living in a fantasy. I understand its hard getting older but just accept it for what it is. Most people date and marry people their same age. Men and women are equally as attracted to youth. No one is checking for a old er man. But if telling each other fairy tales makes you feel hopeful, by all means go for it. Have a great weekend everyone. Also wanted to add you men here are like tortured spirits in here.
Analyzing and longing for something that is out of your reach and will continue to be further out of your reach because everyday you are just getting older. Just sounds like a miserable existence. It is kind of sad. One of the rules of this blog is that if you want to complain, you need to provide actual points against what was written in the article. No one is deliberately checking for an older man, this may be indeed be true. BUT even at 44 i am still get checked out a lot by girls in their late 20s.
Now the average fat middle class beta male is not likely to draw much attention, but the middle aged guy that stands out is. I know only a handful of cougars, and they are exceptionally good looking at 40 or When I was 25 I fucked a 50yo woman for the experience. Because woman their age look for man who is mature, stable and has job and is not some sort of man-child that is still holding onto his youth.
The only difference is when men get as old as their 60,s they really become so boring, lousy sex partners and depressed, where women in their 60,s are much more fun, more active and more pleasant to be aroundone in general. So I am 62 now and picked my 40 years old boyfriend to stay and continue with rather than my 60 years old boyfriend. Great article and thank you. I just started dating a woman that is much younger than me and been having the same thoughts you discuss above.
I was almost thinking to cut it off because I cant compete with the much younger crowd. Shall continue on in a non creepy way and see where it takes me. One just pointed out in these comments that the older guy has to compete with the younger guy for a hot woman over That does not seem fair imo at all.
Oh yes what you say is true! As a man in his 40s I have noticed a dramatic increase in the amount of younger women who are not only open to but actually seeking relations with older men. The greatest thing is that many only want temporary companionship if you know what I mean! Just last weekend I picked up or should say they picked me up two much younger women. I asked them if they wanted to shoot a game of pool, kept it cool, general small talk, bought a couple rounds, and before I know it they are asking me where I live and if I wanted to go party there!
Any how was an unbelievable night! I am a 48 year old man who has returned to college for a second career.
Besides, a classroom is not a good environment to chat up women. Also, most of them are very smart. So many hot women, and no game. Buy my book on the subject. I find the best approach is to be the wise old man and just see what happens.. Get friendly with both sexes and then host a party, your house will be cooler than the usual college dorms and accomodation so use that to your advantage.
So to recap, stimulate their minds first, be there for them almost as a father figure, but naughty Dad. On topic, however, I am curiouse, BD, although you recommend that an older many should be fit, is it a mistake to go too far with this? So, is it possible that it is a mistake to be in TOO good of shape? I am curiouse, BD, although you recommend that an older many should be fit, is it a mistake to go too far with this?
It may be true that the majority of women prefer ripped men. I dated a man much older than me, like 30 yrs older. He was divorced because of his countless affairs while in the marriage. His kids did not speak to him at all. He is very intelligent and I really loved him because of some personal experience. I never asked anything from him and he never pays for anything for me. I had to take a lot of pressure and prejudice to be with him. I thought he would treasure the relationship with me.
However, I found out he continued to have multiple affairs while with me and recently had hit on a girl who is even 5 yr younger than me. I left him immediately and felt really pathetic for him. He thinks he can get any women he wants.
Getting me really boost his confidence, I guess. I have some psychological issues and was a rare case. How stupid a man can be to really believe one case can stand for all? Jane — Please click this and read the rules for commenting on this blog, which you have clearly been ignoring. Personal attacks and insults are not allowed here. How do your relationships usually end?
Is there a common cause? I have, in detail. Poke around the archive of this blog for more info. At risk of being called shallow and narrow visioned. I have had multiple younger women. I am 45 but look late twenties early thirties.
Smooth skin no blemishes round baby face.. I have dated seriously late twenty some-odds who Ive truly loved. I run into women my age with multiple kids,c section scars and depleted bodies who hate men. Well reasoned and supportable. Taking care of ones appearance is a critical aspect. The self-discipline builds confidence and stability. This best be thought of as a process not an endpoint. Once one has a workable set of principles, such as offered here.
We learn over time through our direct behavior what to do and how to do it. Then, it becomes natural. Inevitably, the probabilities of success increases dramatically. The comments about middle-aged and older women made me smile. I have found that these women usually become seriously angry, exceedingly judgmental, critical, shaming, and vindictive. Their response has been so visceral and threatening. I have experience with this. It is the quickest way to become demonized that I can think of.
We in the US live in a culturally skewed PC world. I would offer some advice. Second, protect you sweetheart from this poison also. Third, be culturally sensitive to whomever you introduce her too. I put it to you that a Womans attraction to you has less about your Age and more about her preference for particular characteristics: Physical and emotional characteristics. Obviously you have met a range of women, and analyzed the experiences. Or consider if you approach them under different circumstances, at a slightly different time in their lives, and you were Taller, Shorter, more Nerdy, more confident, or reminded them of a childhood friend.
Perhaps your advice holds true regardless of the flawed subjective justifications and incorrect classification into three character types.
The most important thing I have learned is that the character of a woman can vary, her preference can change and cycle. Its just that Simple.
There is no standard age for cougars and Cougar Life welcomes women in their 30s, 40s, 50s and up. The only requirement is that you're a woman who enjoys. One thing which is difficult is that women my age have been in tricky for women over 43, though she will accept men up to their late 50s. for youth and beauty; women seeking maturity and companionship. Can it really be true? But as I was talking to single men and women in their thirties and forties. Over 50s dating: 6 ways to know your older lover is into you. Save. This feature SEEKING QUALITY TIME. He will be sure to He will only want to have one special lady in his life and not give her any reason for uncertainty.