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Our hearts go out to the families of those slain in the senseless shooting this morning at Sandyhook Elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut. At least 27 people, including 18 children, have been killed. Reports indicate that most of the children were of kindergarten age.
They never stood a chance once a gunman entered their classrooms and indiscriminately opened fire. Many of our readers have children, and most of us are engaging in conversations with family and friends about the horrific shootings. This morning, parents in Newton dropped their kids off at school like any normal day, expecting to see them when the Friday afternoon dismissal bell rang.
There is nothing that can prevent a psychotic breakdown such as the one the shooter must have experienced prior to entering this school. We will never be able to stop random acts of violence, because they are, in most instances, impossible to predict.
The White House has already issued a statement on the events in Newtown:. We will never be able to protect everyone — even if lawful ownership of firearms were to be banned altogether. The solution, though unpopular in many political circles, is to train teachers and administrative staff how to deal with active shooter situations in schools in addition to existing security policies that involve such emergence response plans as sheltering-in-place.
To prepare properly, schools must assume the worst-case scenario in planning their security protocols. They must develop response plans based on the assumption that a crazed gunman is randomly targeting victims with no intention of backing off until he is stopped. It may be a controversial approach, but had a teacher been trained by local law enforcement rapid response units like SWAT or by Department of Homeland Security on how to disable this shooter, preferably with a licensed firearm, the tragic consequences and number of dead may have been reduced.
In December a gunman entered the New Life mega-church in Colorado Springs killing two and wounding two others. He would have continued on, had he not been stopped by Jeanne Assam, an armed volunteer security officer who stood between the shooter and the rest of the congregation that Sunday morning. If we had not had an armed person on our campus, 50 to people could have lost their lives yesterday. Read by 19, people Date: December 14th, Website: This content may be freely reproduced in full or in part in digital form with full attribution to the author and a link to www.
Please contact us for permission to reproduce this content in other media formats. These are what you call total tunnel visioned radicals that have this strange idea that taking away every single last wepaon will lead to a peacefulk society. BO wants what these other ant-gun advocate wants, to get rid of every last weapon, starting with firearms, bows and arrows, stun batons and TASERS, etc.
What is so terrible is that these anti-gun radicals should be doing is trying to find ways of making it easier for the families and especially the chidlren. The economy is collapsing just like Greece, so I guess they want to turn the U. Its almost like the radical left has been sitting back waiting for a class room to get mowed down by a lunatic with a gun. Bloomy is out already, Gov. It is only a matter of time before legislation hits the floor to the detriment of the 2nd amendment.
What better time than now? In one generation or less I am sure anyone who believes they have a right to own a firearm will be labelled a terrorist. My 5 year old daughter was listening to the radio and asked why they were talking about kids getting killed. If one of the conservative justices on the court keels over with a heart attach in the next six months it will be pretty clear — anything is possible to get their way.
And all the shooters just happen to be dead except the major muslim that did the shooting at Ft. No witnesses can be left behind Waco. Ruby Ridge, if you have a gun or baby in hand, you are dead.
What happened to the shooter in Arizona that shot a congresswoman? Did you notice all the law enforcement in Conn.? He no doubt has a stero, TV and Pizza Hut whenever he wants. You left out the Sikh murders at Wisconsin. Well now, church members, children, adults, soldiers—have we covered enough areas yet?? Why is this not enough proof to hang the bastard. Oh, the witnesses where white…silly me.
What Else could MSM do? For example to be sure viewers do Not find out of badguys jewishness, and employment at said Kiddie camp,. This just In…Forget of the badguy killer who aint any type white christian or skin head nazi etc!.. We will return promptly with all the relevent factoids after this Comercial Break! You see that guy in his arraignment hearing after the Colorado theater shooting? He was stoned out of his mind. The Colorado guy simply failed to get the last instruction down pat.
Good points, I have had some of the same feelings about all the shootings. Whatever the truth one thing we can count on and that is that a full court press to ban all firearms will now be mounted. I suspect that this time there is a good chance of a total ban being implemented. Suicide and mass murder is NOT a remotely normal human state of mind.
WHY are young men in various corners of the globe deviating from the norm like this? I realise politics is a dirty game but this crosses a hard line for me into the bounds of sick and inhumane.
Both the event itself and the political response is horrific. How DARE he insult those poor angels to such a degree? How have we sunk so low collectively as a society, that this point scoring from human misery is tolerated? I cannot but help to think that closing all the mental institutions in America has to have something to do with this. There is essentially nowhere that mentally ill people can go to be treated or placed for more than just a few passing moments…how sad this all is.
They will continue to shout and scream about gun control, but as irony would have it, this was also in the New York Daily News today: The UN wants us unarmed.. Freedom over and major loss of life from the hands of this admin. History is repeating itself and we are not stopping it. Neal Knox an Attorney and 2nd Amendment advocate tracked nut case shootings with pending anti gun laws. You intuitively see what statistically Mr Knox showed.
Especially, in this country where we allow the killing of innocent lives everyday. Where we allow the killers to be protected from that same death they have imposed on others. He has told us that there will be a day of reckoning that is soon approaching.
I am saddened by the deaths of those yesterday. I accept that the innocent ones were instantly with their Heavenly Father and fell into his loving arms immediately. I also believe that same loving Father took the ability to feel pain away from their little bodies before the lethal shot was fired and their blood was spilled.
I feel in my heart, the blood that is spilled from the innocent bodies of the unborn is also done without them feeling any pain. If they, the parents and friends, are believers, then they can find comfort knowing He has His children with Him. Psy ops, I wonder how long until the gov calls martial law and tries for complete confiscation? I pray for the families, but God willing, give me liberty or give me death. Something I forgot to mention yesterday. Yes, one can determine the type from a distance but still too quick to report on the weapon and not much on the care of the wounded.
Jim, The Governor of Colorado was talking yesterday about gun control, and action by the state legislator in the new year. They are being orchestrated and very conveniently timed to coincide with certain pieces of totalitarian legislation moving through Congress. Reports are revealing that the gunman was autistic and was being given a variety of Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors SSRIs such as fluoxetine, which have been associated with suicide attempts and violent acts.
What was this guy doing 48hrs. Same with the guy at the mall days earlier. The mall shooters girlfriend said he was happy go lucky, loved life, made his friends laugh. But something happened, he spoke to someone, or heard something, saw or watched something that set him off. I know everyone has seen those adds at one time or another. But think about this how many people really order that stuff. Most likely it does not work for them, but it might for 1 out of , or work really well for 1 out of , which in my opinion is very dangerous.
Because a person knowing they can do that, it wont be long before they will be doing nefarious and evil things. Same with the government they can also to forward an agenda. God be with all those 27 and their families.
It should have never happened…………. Eyes Open Fight Evil……. The Progressives and Liberals foolishly believe they can strip away all the good virtues from society, i. The debate is over. We are in the end game period now both economically, politically, morally, and socially, and we better brace for far worst things to come. To all the libtards: See how dumb that sounds?
If one person abuses a car, say hits a school bus, flips it and kills 18 children, we should then ban all cars..
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Real love must come as a choice. Choice, like sin, has consequences. He, God, does have a great plan. The evil will be stopped for good after all souls are born into the flesh.
Everyone will understand the complete plan during the millenial reign. Because that thing is EVIL. Our condolences to the families, friends, and community.
Brutal tragedy, unacceptable to us all. This reeks of three things: Hug your kids, kiss your spouse, keep prepping. Idiot cartels already have a shit load of. My question to you then sixpack, is when are the people of your country going to grow some nuts to make sure no more innocent children are preyed upon to fulfill that agenda? I am so dreadfully sorry to hear about the loss of so many innocents today.
I am sure I speak for the whole of the UK when I say our thoughts and prayers, sympathies and condolences are with all of you tonight. That is a preposterous idea. This was an elementary school. TSA employees cannot be expected to keep up with something so academically advanced. It is a tragedy on the highest proportions. But unfortunately one must be opened minded to conspiracy.
And that scares me. We were told the Benghazi attacks were because of a YouTube video which was a lie. The gun control advocates will scream to ban guns in this country. Though countries that have banned guns have tragedies such as this. This scares me too. Cowardly hypocrites, the lot of them. Hysteria with no sense to offset it. I would suggest arming teachers, as well, but most teachers are libs and terrified to even be in the same room as a GUN, which, we all know, will go off by itself and kill everyone in a five-square-mile area.
Convenient false flag crisis. This just pisses me off. The son of a bitch lowlife coward, killing children. His body needs to be desecrated and fed to the fish. No grave, no marker, no ceremony, just a bag of concrete, high flying helicopter and a deep ocean. This country has bred a sickness that runs deep. No amount of gun control is going to cure the sickness. Choose wisely, for tyranny will not grant us a 2nd chance! They have painstakingly created this environment to gain control over the masses….
The veil is being lifted more everyday. Could I have done anything to prevent it…NO! Just look at alllll the Progressives already propelling their agenda by hooking onto this tragedy. The circumstances, and on a Friday, no less, are all too commonplace now. BTW — I never said I was involved but when a tragedy affects friends or family, it affects you on a different level. I think we all understand why nothing affects you. Worse, a former boss and good friend of mine has a son there who was a buddy to my oldest.
At this point I am in no different position than anyone else who is horrified by the event not you, clearly. The large majority of viewers and posters here are affected by the CT murders and for some, the images are all too frequent and resemble other murders.
Be sure to add that to your Zoltanne-watching-timeline, Psycho. Now do us all a favor and STFU. The only place we have for someone like you is downrange. Go back to MoveOn with your other comrades. It just amazes me that on the heels of a mass shooting you are happy to scream about doing the same thing yourself. It just boggles the mind. They always get what they want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time.
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Yes, clearly the 2nd amendment is now under fire. There is no bootstrap there. That is direct and obvious. Trying to start a soapbox on THAT. This is purple prose and uncalled for.
And frankly, does damage to the more valid arguments. Hell, you may be one. Well fuck you if you are. Old man, you are an idiot. If you and enough of your ilk go out wildly foaming at the mouth like this, the 2nd amendment is done for. What the fuck is wrong with you? There WILL be a national debate. And the momentum is with the anti-gun folks now. You need to STFU and stop making that coalition bigger than it already is.
After one year from the ratification of this article the manufacture, sale, or transportation of all firearms within, the importation thereof into, or the exportation thereof from the United States and all territory subject to the jurisdiction thereof for any purpose is hereby prohibited.
The Congress and the several States shall have concurrent power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission hereof to the States by the Congress.
We all know how that worked out. AC just diggin hole deeper…………. Train Hard Fight Easy. Obama gonsta strut like a peacock after the fervor dies down and gonsta save us all.
How many children Barack are you responsible for killing with your drone strikes? Look the American people in the eye when you tell us. I would not joke about this. I suspect that this is the incident that the control freaks have been hoping for and will indeed result in a total gun ban. I saw crocodile tears today while Obama spoke about the massacre. How dare he while he supports abortion policies that murder more than a million babies a year in the U.
When is Mexico going to extradite Holder for his trial?? What sick bastard does something like this? Unbelievable, and thats why it will succede in banning guns. Same program, different country. I might add, Obama has killed more Pakistan children than this with his drone campaign. Just sayin, beware the tears of the crocodile. Remember, they have to get the guns for tyranny to work.
The death toll after they get the guns will be alot more horrendous. Or will possession be a crime? For the obvious reason of needing them after SHTF, but also because of the money invested, eep!
Can I just hide them and if they come knocking tell them that I sold them? Well most of us have taken our gear out camping and fishing. But we are terrible canoe-paddlers and we invariably tump over and loose our stuff.
If you think that lame excuse will work think again. You clowns need to stop making that claim on a public forum. It can and will be used against you when the time arrives. They know who you are. I am going to a gun show tomorrow. I will bet the lines are long. Prices will be high. And all sorts of guns will flying off the tables. It will be a daunting task to disarm THE largest standing army in the world. What are you scared of? That would be the biggest political mistake they could ever make.
Short-term political gain would turn into long-term political catastrophe for the left. Dboy, none of your nine alternatives are going to happen.
The only credible one is 9. Outlaw private sales of firearms. Even this would be only a mandate for a NICS check on private transfers. None of the nine things you mention will keep the wrong people from acquiring or using firearms, all that will happen is the general public would be burdened with a requirements list that is designed to reduce the legal ownership of firearms.
What kind of world do you live in when you have to give your 12 year old a refresher on tipping her desk on its side and hiding behind the metal part in the event of a gunman in her classroom? On the same topic, VRF — we talk about trusting your instincts and listening to that little voice, even if that little voice sounds irrational sometimes. Unfortunately, in the day we now live in…nothing can be accepted at face value. My heart breaks for the parents and family of these children. Children have become the preferred target of the deranged agenda.
Children of a different nationality die in higher numbers daily…in places WE supposedly defend. We are standing on the edge of the cliff…this will continue to become worse. This incident has and will be politicized for ALL the wrong reasons. But this assumption remains to be seen. And less likely, reported in context.
We didnt worry about terrorists, tornadoes or anything like this. Right you are eeder. What you need is a form of deterrence so… unthinkable that no one would ever think of doing shit like this.
First, this is horrible. The families of those kids will never be the same. I just got home and hugged both my kids. Licensing of guns historically is a prelude to confiscation and should be resisted. Though I have a carry permit, I would dispute the need for one. When we need a license or permit from government to do something, it becomes a privilege. Only Vermont, Alaska, Arizona and Wyoming have gun laws which do not infringe on the 2nd Amendment in my opinion.
As I recall, Oklahoma just passed Open Carry. And what about Texas? And Open Carry goes in exactly the opposite direction from where the fedgov wants to go…so hopefully that conflict will work in our favor. Expect weapons they wish to include to be rolled into NFA34 under a new designation. Once registered into the system confiscation at a later date is relatively efficient and easy.
Wal K, You first. Care to have your home burned with your wife and kids inside? Remember Waco and Ruby Ridge before you take the step with no going back. Pisses me off too but when the hammer comes down there will not be much that can be done.
Fineswine who started the first ban after the Stockton school yard shooting is already getting the machinery in motion. When I think back on the people who founded this country…. Many of those founders…and their families indeed paid the ultimate price to give us this Republic. I remember Waco and Ruby Ridge. It was those events that awakened me to the tyranny that threatens this nation.
And it was those events that solidified in my mind that there are certain lines that I will not allow to be crossed. The right to keep and bear arms is one of those lines….. All of our other rights will become moot, and be relegated to the dustbin of history. I can only hope that if the time comes that I am put to the test, I will have the courage to honor those who have paid the ultimate price to ensure our freedom.
I agree with your sentiments one hundred percent. I have no idea how this whole thing will play out but the solution better be reached by electing better people to positions of power. Then again what hope is there for a nation that knowing full well what a poser Obama is and with four years of failure for a record re elects him? What could possibly rile up the people enough to get them to agree to more gun control?
I agree with this totally. But like I said above,. Anyone who doubts that the goal is an assault semiautomatic weapons ban, ask Australia how it went down there. Port Arthur Massacre, for those who want to search up information about the advent of stringent gun control in Australia. Daisy, Thanks for the advice. In Australia it was done by a guy with a very low I.
As far as arming teachers, that is a patently absurd idea and a knee jerk reaction. The last thing needed is a bunch of Barney Fife teachers running around armed. You can certainly have drills for various emergency situations Tornado drills, Fire drills, ect.
Freedom and Liberty are wonderful ideas but they come with no guarantees of a safe cocoon in which you may live. That being said, Saved By Grace, you are correct on all counts!!
It matters not which party is in charge, when the time comes, they will get most peoples guns. Yes, there will be a few who hold out, but they will be made a very public example of and most others will fall in line.
Why do I say that, I simply look at all of the examples in history. Human nature does not vary much from country to country, regardless of the language spoken.
So what is wrong with a few teachers at a school carrying a handgun? Surely, there are some who are already licensed and available. The one thing they have in common are the video games, these kids are totally into them and it numbs their right and wrong….. This one will brin the emotion none of the others could….. We should all be very nervous!!!!! I just cannot fathom any person sane enough to function in normal society giving such an order. Another Comment, You need to read some history.
By historical standards this would be a very minor act of barbarism. A very minor case of govt. Why the hell do you post here? Daisy- Yes you psycho…the US GOVT hired this 18 year old kid to first kill his family member at home, then take his ow mothers car to where she teaches kindergarten ,and kill both his mother and her whole classroom of kids.
You fucking ididots are WHY we need some kind of gun control…. I got guns to wipe your kind out when the Civil War starts up. When you turn in your neighbor I hope he catches you in his sights. Who the fuck do you think you are talking to? Daisy is one of the most informed, sharing and caring people on this board.
You on the other hand appear to be some jerk commenting very rudely with no knowledge of who you are speaking of. Eat shit and die. Daisy, your a psycho! But you are my kind of psycho. Otherwise, your enthusiasm might wane. I want you to talk to me face to face not behind a computer you piece of shit. I doubt that something like this would have the inclusion of the President. The shadow government pulls the strings on this one. The Administration just plays the cards that appear. Look at all the backpack and car bombs in the middle east.
But I too believe it seems a little strange so many are happening now. Fast and Furious certainly tends to support your suspicions. Too bad that will never be vetted for the public. Unlike if a republican had been president when it went on. Some idiot in China slashed up 22 childen and adults…. But to blame guns, any kind of gun, for this is to blame spoons for obesity.
Tonight, we all mourn. Recent events will add weight to the agenda that we here are fully aware of fascist police state.
This crisis will be used to help attain that goal regardless of anything else. Look at the EU. Power was removed from each former country and shifted far away to Brussels where the common people have no influence or control. Local police state control of the population, with remote decision-makers…. THAT is how we will lose America to the globalists. It would have been a peaceful creation had it not been for the tyrannical government across the ocean from us, at the time.
Trail of Tears, Wounded Knee, ect. Prohibit guns, violence continues to exist through means of archery, knives, swords or you name it. Do you judge the Germans as criminals just because an extremist group slaughtered millions?
Do you condemn the Muslims because a few extremists brought down a building killing a few thousand? You said it Gregor; why not ground all planes. Heck, victims in one day was a pretty big loss. You people are so stupid. It would be nice if one of your kids were among the dead. Guns make it easier for people to kill people and easier to kill more people.
I am a gun owner. I have a concealed carry permit and do carry where legal. Guns are part of the problem. Many of my fellow gun owners make me ashamed to be a gun owner because of the sheer stupidity seen here. Guns are part of the problem and stupid gun owners like the ones who post here are part of the problem. But, therein lies the rub, honesty. You fuckheads are not honest, just selfish. Your guns are more important to you than anything else. You must have a frustrating sex life and try to make up for it with your phallic symbols.
Did you not see my post about the death penalty for unlawful killing. Was that not a honest statement? Have you ever heard of the constitution? How about we trade. You come on this sight all high and mighty chastising us because we are speaking out about our second amendment rights. You call all of us the problem because we talk about this and not about the horrible tragedy. If you want to find someone to while like a baby about talking about gun control and not the tragedy try Bloomberg!
The people on this sight are some of the best people in the world. The kind that you would want as a neighbor or to watch your back when it hits the fan. I truly enjoy your comments. As I wrote above it is not just enough that these liberal radicals want to get rid of assault firearms, they want to get rid of ALL guns, and then ALL self defense from everyone. The fox said why should I trust you, the scorpion said because I need to get to the other side like you.
The fox agreed to let me ride on his back, about halfway across the scorpion stung him. Liberal turds have a nature, and that is to take away absolutely all self defense from everyone because they have this spaced out notion that utopia exists when everyone is disarmed. They see a women fully able to defend herself against any man. The fact is a women without a weapon becomes a victim to a bigger man.
People like in Switzerland that are armed to the teeth and can protect themselves have little crime because it is a deterrant to criminal slime. Give these anti-self defense characters an inch and they will try to take it miles. This is why the gun lobby and NRA so strongly supports no compromise with gun rights, because these nut job liberal individuals will try to use ANY ground gained in their cause to fully make all citizens helpless like over in Greece against the criminal scum.
I got pretty hot last night when I read the verbal trash above. It just makes me so infuriated to see the liberals jump out and the first thing they want to do is talk about gun control and whe people who respect the constitution speak out in defense of their rights people like Joe in NC are the first one to come out and tell us to shut up.
They should spend time elsewhere because if they truly know people on this site they should also know that his comments would be met with a lot of backlash and no minds on this site have been changed. Look what a republican did to Mass. They pretend to not be with the program but, non stop they prove that conservatives can fuck shit up too.
Or was romney a democrat? You make me ashamed to be an American! Your Nothing but a Loud Mouth Punk! I wished you were the Shooter.. Get the Picture asshat! Joe in NC, You are a f-in psycho. You own guns and even have a carry permit. Therefore you are a big part of the problem. Go shoot yourself before you hurt someone you f-in nutbar.
That instability should justify a confiscation of your firearms and in the future it probably will. You asked for an honest discussion. Should government wait for you to flip out or save lives by taking your weapons before you do? Might I add that the suggestion to have us put a bullet in our heads. But if he does have a permit and a gun but wants gun control. Sounds like a famous senator. There are 7 billion people on this planet.
That means there are potentially 3. The Drake Equation shows that it is a statistical certainty that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe not here of course. My spatial distribution to JnNC it one up and four down on my right hand…guess which one is up Joe? The lives of those children are totally insignificant compared to the ability of the people to defend against fascism, communism, and slavery. JoeinNC, you are calling for personal violence here, you need to seek professional help.
If you own firearms, you need to have them taken from you, JoeinNC, until you can be successfully treated for your illness. Joe, I live in NC, and I am very concerned about you and anyone near you. Therefore I have forwarded your post to a friend the SBI. Maybe you need to tone it down a bit. Meanwhile, you should be expecting a knock at the door very soon. Do they think they can break us?
Make us turn over our rights? We protect and defend to the end. Im guessing you defended against the patriot act and ndaa til the end too since they took away our freedoms.
You must have 9 lives tho because they still took them and your still typing. As for joe wtf? We have been killing for thousands of years without 1 damn gun being invented.
Burnt at stakes, thrown into pits of lava, knives, swords, blunt objects, bare hands, rocks, little metal balls, pens, pencils, cement and a waterway, pillows, feathers, spikes, bamboo sticks, fishhooks, rope, horses, plants, insects, blankets, food. Should we outlaw all these items they have been all used to kill ppl in the past. Sorry mr joe you must give up your hands they can be used to strangle punch kill pull a trigger stab light a match pour gas on shove a pillow over, someone. Black racist Barry is on the telly, weeping over a bunch of dead White kids — somehow, I doubt his sincerity.
Besides, he has killed countless innocent civilians at wedding parties in Afghanistan and Pakistan, without so much as batting an eye. Incidents like the one in Newtown CT are seen as a windfall by the Washington politburo and its Merkin police state minions, who see these tragedies as useful tools to advance their long-term policy goal, the TOTAL disarming of Amerikans.
Hope he polished his act, he didnt have the emotions down to be on the tube Friday. Hes a cold sonofabitch.
For the Police to stop a mass shooter averages I bet the moderators wil not allow my post because you idiots are dishonest and are the worst sort because you scream about alleged losst of liberties but are among the most oppressive and bigoted organisms on the planet. I did not use the term human, because you are not. Take a chill pill moron. And stop projecting your own dishonesty and bigotry on everyone else. And by all means…. People with emotional problems like yourself should not possess dangerous weapons.
By the very nature of Law enforcement the probability that even a fraction of the crimes committed in the country can be stopped in-progress or prevented by same is a fallacy of the first Order and Magnitude. Such is simple impossibility. Tofdays horrifyting events are utter proof of what is said above….. A Media that glorifies violence. Video games and TV and Movies and Music with death and killing.
Politicians that get power by division and hate. These things are the REAL causes. A gun is a tool. We have had them from the beginning. Only in recent decades have we had these mass killings. A symptom of an underlying sick society. I would go to prison for smoking a joint but not for eating mind-bending chemicals that Dr. His state medical license makes it OK. Today I was physically sick. This travesty can be debate on many levels, but this news has brought a new darkness to our world.
I recently stated this very fact. We here at this gathering site feel the hum; its why we prepare even if we might mumble to ourselves — just crazy talk, tee hee, ahem. That hum can not be ignored; you feel it coming like a freight train in the pitch black. My soul is weary from it all. It is a heavy heart that cries — we do indeed reap what we have sown.
If any wonder how the hell this happened? Can we blame anything except that which is a nagging guilt. This is the portion of a wicked man with God, and the heritage of oppressors, which they shall receive of the Almighty. If his children be multiplied, it is for the sword: Though a sinner do evil an hundred times, and his days be prolonged, yet surely I know that it shall be well with them that fear God, which fear before him.
My heart breaks for them having grandchildren that age. Things are very different this time. I saw the live newscast; Obama was truely saddened but he was also very angry. After 21 in Law Enforcement of reading people, I can tell you his emotions were real and that he will take some action very soon.
He is already conferring with the AG on what steps he can take through immediate executive orders to be followed by mandatory, and likely permanent, legislation on all forms of controls for firearms, ammunition, and all related items.
Some of these things EOs could come as soon as next Monday. Look for severe resrtictions on the number, and types, of firearms that may be purchased per month and per year. Also look for limits on the amount of many types of ammunition that may be sold.
This will likely be coupled by the requirement that all sellers of guns, private and public, be licensed by the ATF. If anyone lacks anthing, now is the time because of what I saw on the Presidents face tells me the door is about to close-HARD. Stupid is as stupid does.. There is a special place in hell for people who hurt little kids, Christ even said so. Should we ban cars, as thousands are killed each year using them? Should we totally ban alcohol, tobacco, sugar, and any other thing that can harm us?
That is the logic of these psycopaths, and it will sadly never end. Any person with a little common sense can see where this is going. What will be the societal tipping point before all private ownership of guns are instituted? I should have said what would be the tipping point before the private ownership of guns, was banned. Trying to prevent mass murders by banning guns is like trying to end drunk driving by taking cars away from sober people.
I fear that until we as a society get serious about diagnosing, understanding and treating mental illnesses, tragic events like today will keep happening again and again. Damn, if you are going to do it anyways, so many corrupt people out there why the innocent children you idiot.
Kids spend their childhood in front of video games and TVs. Taking mind altering prescription drugs. So of course he pulled off the young man ego play today. Folks sitting around with nothing to do, but be depressed and go crazy for entertainment. The shooter was a prepper, just prepping for the wrong cause. Participating in this site would have been a much better hobbie and gave him purpose.
Mac, a well written piece… you other guys, can you stop the typical zealous anti govt crap and take a moment to write something in memorium for a horrible tragic event in America?
This is exactly the majority of preppers are seen the way they are. Give it a rest. You think bombs discriminate?? Take them christmas lights, shove em up your ass, and plug them in, you ass wipe. People who see preppers in a negative light, will do so regardless of what we say or do.
There is no longer any point in trying to convince them otherwise. My response was about your pathetic response to apparently the school shooting. The irony here is that gun sales are at record highs. The more they talk about banning guns, the more it backfires. I agree with you. We need more consealed carry permits. Not strictor gun laws. More people believed in Y2K. I guess thats what you get from kids growing up products of 4th generation TV babysitting. I try my best to stay out of society.
I get angry out in the world because of some of what you said. I can not believe the anger that people have. After coming home from work and finding out what happened with these children I feel sick. Like other comments posted, there are pages in this story we will never know.
The government will use this to their advantage in every way. These mass shooters are sick individuals who are bent on murder and suicide so they can go out in a blaze of glory. The media is largely responsible for enabling them because the perps know they will be made famous around the world after their deaths. If the media were to voluntarily begin following these simple rules for reporting these incidents, the perps would be robbed of their motivation and the incidents would dry up.
How far will are fascist government PsyOps go to ban the last thing between them and total control? Only the demonic would intentionally take the lives of the innocent and pure of heart.
This reeks of false flag. And I must say that I abhor the very thought the my own government would do such a thing. Welcome to gun control in America people.
Next handguns, then replicas, then crossbows, catapults,knives,baseball bats, etc etc, Just like Australia…. Modern Australians are a disgrace to their ancestry. Girly men and their pretty little pink panties. As tragic as this is. Too much uncertainty right now. I will say this, this has all the hallmarks of another staged shooting like the Denver theatre shooting. I need all the evidence. Obama came out way too fast and starting attacking the 2nd amendment. An armed teacher would have saved lives…..
Another thing i would like to see done is every news story when something like this happens call them.. Drugs- prescribed or not? I keep hearing and seeing people call for an assault weapons ban today even though he supposedly only used handguns. Are pistols going to become the next assault weapon??? That is alot of time to think and only a crazy person would have thought to kill more people in that two hrs especially innocent children.
The spiritual war is relentless. If not a gun,well we are smart enough to know the true answer. Will they wheel and deal with it at cliff time. At the end of this period, any number of citizen s or groups who refuse to turn over their firearms. Maybe because everyone has their head stuck in this idiot box typing on it all day, when they should be out doing real things and enjoying life.
I did not mean we were all losers. I just think we are fighting a losing battle, need to get out in the world and face the problems, and fight for what we believe in. With him, most Authors steal their Works, or buy; Garth did not write his own Dispensary.
We have reach the point of no return. Again Lawful gun owners will be made to pay the price for others misdeeds. Too many cover ups. Just go down the list here at SHTF. I have to ask myself is there anything more they can do that is more despicable.
My heart and prayers go out to the children, the teachers, the childrens parents, their families. School, shopping mall, movie theater? Good points VRF, what is next, a concert, a baseball game, a stadium?
Be Aware of Your Surroundings is a good practice to begin. I take it everywhere, its light, small and very easy to hide.
I really hope one day soon a packing member of the right minded society ends a rampage like this.. Minds are becoming more unstrung by the day and each that passes leaves us in a darker and darker place — a pit — from which there seems no exit. I have begun, for the first time, to fear the future and what lies ahead.
I have thus far not succumbed to hopelessness, but this…. One cannot fight something which one cannot name…. Such as those — the small ones — taken today are recived by Him directly, being innocent wholly…it is our only comfort in the face of this Horror…and it is not enough.
Merciful Father, How long will the Innocent and the Righteous suffer? How long O Lord, how long? Not only would he drive to school with his rifle and ammunition, but he would walk through the high school with the rifle cased but not locked to get to the rifle range in the far corner of the school basement.
About ten years ago I took a few years off from my current profession and taught history at a high school in Virginia. The school had more than its share of tough guys and I was threatened with violence quite a few times. The school had ONE armed sheriff to patrol a school that held over 1, students. It was better than nothing, but if an armed response was necessary, he was alone. School shootings will stop when school districts allow their teachers and principals to arm themselves. But we all know the White Tower Liberal Know-It-Alls will never allow that to happen… and so the circle of violence will continue.
At least until they successfully convince American Society to disarm. I was living in Germany when that evil little sh! In fact, a conservative, John Major, introduced the legislation himself. News of this massacre needs to be countered with news of firearms used in self-defense. Anyone remember the call of the young mother at home with her baby when to Meth Heads tried breaking into the home? She defended her body, her house, and her baby with a 12 gauge.
That audio needs to be dusted off stat. And every other example of guns being used to defeat evil… and not cause it. I have never given up on the skill, and its fed me, clothed me, and protected me and my family.. There aint no way im ever going to give it up, its part of my freedoms. There is really something wrong with this story, there is too much possibility this was planned , and not by the one who pulled the trigger.
At the high school where I taught, at least 4 of us on staff, including the principal, had carry permits. Of course, the laws would not allow our guns on school property. If there were one concealed-carry at that school, the tragedy could have been minimized, if not prevented. For a roughly 8 year period it was extremely infrequent when the political composition of the Presidency and Houses made anti gun laws highly unlikely to pass.
If this is a true random nut case this madman went to the head of the line of kooks. If this is as I suspect it may be the amoral capacity of those behind it hold no bounds. Gun control cannot cure mental illness neither can pharmaceutical drugs. Lets see China ban all knives. Chinese man attacks 22 children 1the adult. Government is concerned about weapons that have the potential to threaten government from most effective to least in that order. The Chinese people are industrial cannon fodder that are very compliant.
Cease looking at any of this from the perspective of protecting people. Semi Auto rifles are a fraction of that. Lightening kills about 88 people per year. Lets ban Semi Auto rifles; lets mandate individual lightening protection, same payoff. This is agenda driven and public safety is not part of that agenda. America leads the world in gun ownership.
Next best is Serbia with Next best 1st world country is Switzerland with As a country, either we are sicker than the rest of the world, more prone to violence than the rest of the world, or allow mentally unfit people to own guns more than other nations.
Whatever, something is definitely badly broken here. The Evil is enveloping everything. Western Civilization as a whole has turned its back on God and His commandments, and it will suffer for it. If you want to go by sheer numbers, according to Business Insider, the 10 most violent cities in the world are: Distrito Central, Honduras San Pedro Sula, Honduras. Not a single city in the US. Mexico has five of the top 10 cities on the list. So clearly, the number of guns civilians own in a country are not an accurate predictor of violence in a country.
Your stat is meaningless… unless you want to confiscate guns from the US populace. Good luck with that…. This kind of incident was unheard of before the use of these poisons. I agree with Bob the biggest change in America in 30 years is the amount prescription drugs most of them untested. The dear leader wiped away a tear today at his news conference, he is using this horror as a pawn in his plan for gun confiscation from all in America.
For him to mention this in a round about yet political way, shows how he will use even little children to make his agenda come to fruition. The masses will buy it, but the believers in the constitution will not and they will not allow it. In the coming days, the progressives might try to produce an immediate bill, while the country is still in shock, to take your right to carry and own a gun. They will try but they will not succeed. Then again, because of the impending fiscal cliff and of course the christmas break coming up for congress, they may wait until after their vacations to try and stomp on our rights.
There are millions of real tears for the slaughtered children, we do not need a fake tear from the dear leader. If you look at the history of school shootings, every one of the perpetrators were either on meds for attention deficit, mood control, depression, anxiety, or had at one point in time been on meds, probably as a child.